tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606399196932045640.post5710816662307151425..comments2024-01-25T09:26:15.915-05:00Comments on Dixie Yid: What's the origin of the name Klonymous?DixieYid (يهودي جنوبي)http://www.blogger.com/profile/03713423988723533390noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606399196932045640.post-4977010537983206772007-08-13T16:57:00.000-04:002007-08-13T16:57:00.000-04:00From: http://www.jhom.com/topics/firsts/names.html...From: http://www.jhom.com/topics/firsts/names.html<BR/><BR/>"Some given names express good luck and fortune, either in Hebrew or in foreign equivalents that have been accepted as traditional Jewish names. In Hebrew we have the feminine name Mazal (luck), and the masculine names Gad (luck) and Shem Tov (good name). From foreign languages we have: Kalonymus, or in its shortened form Kalman, derived from the Greek for "good name"; Simha Bunim, derived from the French for "good name" (bon nom); Fortuna is another example among Sephardi women."<BR/><BR/>And from, http://www.weddingvendors.com/baby-names/meaning/kalman/ :<BR/><BR/>Kalman is Hungarian for Strong and manly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606399196932045640.post-76934411090415831732007-08-13T00:12:00.000-04:002007-08-13T00:12:00.000-04:00It's not kalon. It's kallos, or callas, that mean...It's not kalon. It's kallos, or callas, that means beautiful, and nymos that means name. Kalo nymos, beautiful name.Eliezer Eisenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606399196932045640.post-90252656461128174312007-08-10T13:11:00.000-04:002007-08-10T13:11:00.000-04:00But does anyone know why the Yiddish form is Kalma...But does anyone know why the Yiddish form is Kalman?<BR/><BR/>(Ala: Shlomo=Zalman, Yehoshua=Heshel, Tzvi=Hirsh, Arye=Leib, Yehuda=Loeb, Dov=Ber, etc)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606399196932045640.post-3317488533986147572007-07-31T17:02:00.000-04:002007-07-31T17:02:00.000-04:00Yitz, When I was thinking of the origin of the nam...Yitz, <BR/><BR/>When I was thinking of the origin of the name in Hebrew and trying to break it down, I knew it couldn't be right because of the same thing you noticed about the meaning of the Hebrew word, "kalon." R' Moshe David and Steg on the comments here though.<BR/><BR/>-Dixie YidDixieYid (يهودي جنوبي)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03713423988723533390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606399196932045640.post-74452817327943238432007-07-31T07:59:00.000-04:002007-07-31T07:59:00.000-04:00BTW, the Piaseczno was named for the Ma'or V'Sheme...BTW, the Piaseczno was named for the Ma'or V'Shemesh, Rebbe Klonymous Kalman of Krakow, from whom he's descended.yitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08523302947845887661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606399196932045640.post-74425651477754482552007-07-31T07:56:00.000-04:002007-07-31T07:56:00.000-04:00Interesting. "Kalon" = nice. In Hebrew, "Kalon," h...Interesting. "Kalon" = nice. In Hebrew, "Kalon," has quite a negative connotation - an "os kalon" is a mark of shame. Greek is usually quite related to Hebrew: [aleph - alpha, etc].<BR/><BR/>Onymos = name. That's sounds right. The "nym" became "name," and is also found in many suffixes in English: synonym, antonym, and the blogger's favorite: ano-nym-ous.yitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08523302947845887661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606399196932045640.post-47260059403357252007-07-30T10:47:00.000-04:002007-07-30T10:47:00.000-04:00Moshe David Tokayer, thank you very much for that ...Moshe David Tokayer, thank you very much for that source! Great explanation. Thank you!<BR/><BR/>-Dixie YidDixieYid (يهودي جنوبي)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03713423988723533390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606399196932045640.post-63715601106826480472007-07-29T04:23:00.000-04:002007-07-29T04:23:00.000-04:00yeah the name definitely sounds greek.. glad someo...yeah the name definitely sounds greek.. glad someone else explained it first..yitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05866660855678077639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606399196932045640.post-14289387978490998062007-07-29T02:15:00.000-04:002007-07-29T02:15:00.000-04:00From the article: "Gerald Murray makes the same p...From the article: "Gerald Murray makes the same point when he says that the translation of Shem-Tov into Greek is Kalonymos, and that this name is etymologically of Greek origin: “kalon” signifying “nice” or “good,” and “onymos” meaning “name.”"Moshe David Tokayerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18201862051914605921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606399196932045640.post-11532664067558454692007-07-29T02:14:00.000-04:002007-07-29T02:14:00.000-04:00Good name in Greek. See here:http://www.isragen.o...Good name in Greek. See here:<BR/><BR/>http://www.isragen.org.il/NROS/BIB/SHD/Bonnet/AndresBonet-E.pdfMoshe David Tokayerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18201862051914605921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606399196932045640.post-52733094821711421412007-07-28T22:50:00.000-04:002007-07-28T22:50:00.000-04:00Maybe it means "LIttle mouse." Like "kleineh mouse...Maybe it means "LIttle mouse." Like "kleineh mouse..." Just kidding.<BR/><BR/>At any rate, thank you anonymous and Steg. So to put it together, it means "Good name" in Greek? If you happen to check these comments again, how do the two words that make up the name get broken down? What are the two root words that make up the name Klonymous? Yasher koach!<BR/><BR/>-Dixie YidDixieYid (يهودي جنوبي)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03713423988723533390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606399196932045640.post-62925927472832654672007-07-27T16:42:00.000-04:002007-07-27T16:42:00.000-04:00i think it means "good name".i think it means "good name".Steg (dos iz nit der šteg)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07694556690190505030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2606399196932045640.post-72677648644478879222007-07-27T16:11:00.000-04:002007-07-27T16:11:00.000-04:00Klonymus is an ancient greek name. It is mentione...Klonymus is an ancient greek name. It is mentioned in Aristophines' (sp?) "The Clouds".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com