Monday, December 24, 2007

The Meaning of "Nitel Nacht"


Rembember this discussion at A Simple Jew from last year's "Nital Nacht" Eve? Still interesting...

-Dixie Yid

(Picture of the latest Lubavitcher Rebbe, zt'l playing Chess with the Freidiker Rebbe, zt'l on Nitel Nacht courtesy of Hashkafa.com)

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7 comments:

Schvach said...

I had this discussion with my Chabad
friends years ago. To alter anything we do on Dec 25th, to even designate a name for it, provides our acknowledgement of it, regardless of the insults we apply to it. To alter our religious practices only serves to allow that religion domination over Judaism. I assume it's even possible to consider this an avoda zara!

Yirmeyahu said...

"Blogger Schvach said...

I had this discussion with my Chabad
friends years ago. To alter anything we do on Dec 25th, to even designate a name for it, provides our acknowledgement of it, regardless of the insults we apply to it. To alter our religious practices only serves to allow that religion domination over Judaism. I assume it's even possible to consider this an avoda zara!"

I believe your words could be equally applied to the injunction found in the first mishnah of Avodah Zarah.

There is a difference between reaction to a celebration, which is impossible to avoid, and observing it.

DixieYid said...

Shvach & Yirmiyahu,

I hear what you're both saying. I'm not one to judge either way.

Wouldn't being ma'aleh rok when one passes a beis avoda zara also be changing our actions because of the avoda zara?

-Dixie Yid

chabakuk elisha said...

Oh Yeah!
Thanks for reminding me of that conversation:
http://asimplejew.blogspot.com/2006/12/why-do-i-have-to-start-now.html#c116714354030087303

DixieYid said...

Chabakuk Elisha,

Oh yes, I remember reading this comment of yours last year. Thanks for your great research!

-Dixie Yid

Anonymous said...

Did you see this one:

http://hirhurim.blogspot.com/2007/12/nittel-nacht-christmas-eve.html

A Suede Ḥossid said...

I had this discussion with my Chabad
friends years ago. To alter anything we do on Dec 25th, to even designate a name for it, provides our acknowledgement of it, regardless of the insults we apply to it. To alter our religious practices only serves to allow that religion domination over Judaism. I assume it's even possible to consider this an avoda zara!


You assume it’s possible to consider a practice followed and encouraged by the 6th and 7th Lubavitcher Rebbeim an avoida zara? That’s an interesting assumption.